Are YOU a Cheese-etarian?

20 thoughts on “Are YOU a Cheese-etarian?”

  1. I love the fact that you’ve coined a new term here: cheese-etarian is right! It’s uncanny how devout cheese lovers are and how they disregard signs that cheese is not a health food (thought the dairy industry says otherwise). Healthy foods don’t give you cancer and they aren’t made using such odd and cruel procedures. This is what I wish I would have told everyone who said they can’t be vegan because of a cheese addiction: http://www.carenbaginski.com/blog/vegan/addicted-to-cheese-casein-cancer/

  2. Thats the dumbest crap I ever heard. I eat meat and cheese I eat it because it tastes good and I dont care about animal cruelty

  3. Thanks for the link from 43t, these are good reminders, and i find that the little bit of effort needed to look for alternatives has resulted in a much more varied and interesting diet.
    It’s interesting to reflect that the old habit – cheese on almost everything – is not that much different to a similar habit, one which I would roll my eyes at, that of drowning everything in ketchup!

  4. i hate when ppl say their vegan but eat cheese still same with vegetarians iv met so many ppl tell me their a veg but eat meat once in a very grate while ,ugh ppl like that get on my nerves its like their just saying their veg or vegan to be cool or something its so stupid!!

  5. Interesting and thought-provoking article! Thank you!
    Now, I am ‘only’ a vegetarian – and by no means a ‘cheese-atarian’ (I don’t preach what I don’t do , nor do I lie that ‘i don’t really eat cheese’). I am moving towards veganism, and I am okay with doing it in slow steps. I may hit the ‘let’s go now, cold tofu’ point (I became a vegetarian cold tofu), but if not, if it takes months or years, I am okay with it. I think doing something is much better than doing nothing…and reaching the 100% ethical and vegan level slowly but staying there for life is much better than doing it from one day to the next but than falling back in a month or a year or more….

    Anyways, I was curious on your intake on the following. I have a friend who has been a vegan for 10 years or so. Recently she started eating some cheese and eggs – the eggs come from the chicken of her neighbor, and the cheese is made by her neighbor in tiny quantities from his goats. Now, we are talking about happy little chicken and goats who run around in the garden, grass (and whatever they eat) from the organically grown garden, they are not treated with hormones and other shit, they are practically family members, but the guy takes an egg here and there, drinks their milk, and makes some small amount of cheese… Now what do you think of my friend, who is I guess technically not a vegan, since she occasionally eat eggs and cheese from the neighbor’s animals (only from there). She says it is because she knows where it comes from for sure, so it’s ok. Otherwise she is keeping at her vegan diet, ethical choices with shopping etc. How do you feel about this? Do you find it ok? Is it something you would ever do? Is it ethical? Or would you toss her out from the vegan and ethical community?

    1. Hello, Dudette, and thank you for commenting and enjoying my blog!

      I understand what you’re saying about the “cold tofu” thing. It took me years to go vegan, but this was mainly because I never set out to go all the way vegan in the first place. I had always thought that ovo-lacto was enough. Once I learned that it really wasn’t enough, I began making “efforts” to go vegan verrryyyy slowwwly. So slowly that it almost seemed like I wasn’t doing anything at all about it. It wasn’t until one day, after a demo, I met someone who changed my life forever. His name was Bob Linden (of Go Vegan Radio). We talked for over an hour about eggs and dairy and I told him that I was doing it slowly and taking baby steps and he said something to me that I will never forget: “If not you, who? If not now, when?”. It clicked. I was done procrastinating, avoiding, and denying — I was ready. That was the day I went vegan.

      About your friend:

      1. Technically speaking, your friend would not be considered a vegan, but an ovo-lacto vegetarian. However, she is obviously not on the same ethical plane as another ovo-lacto vegetarian who gets their eggs and dairy from less-kind sources.
      2. Ethically, it would seem that this scenario would be perfectly fine. However, when we look closer we notice that it is not as rosy as it may seem. How are the goats producing milk? Were they impregnated? Do they have kids? What are the kids drinking? Are the eggs fertilized / Is there a rooster? Does her neighbor plan on taking care of these animals into their old age or does he just sell them to slaughter once they become too much of a burden? Where did her neighbor get the animals?
      3. The issue here isn’t how nice an animal’s situation is, it’s whether that animal is being exploited. Ultimately, animals do not create milk or eggs for human consumption. The eggs belong to the hens. The milk belongs to the goats. I recommend my post Animal Rights > Animal Welfare, for your reading (https://veganrabbit.com/2012/03/15/animal-rights-animal-welfare/).
      4. We cannot forget that no matter how ethical some animal products may seem, the health implications will always stay the same. Dairy and eggs will always be high in fat, cholesterol, and animal protein. None of these things are good for the human body. It doesn’t matter whether it comes from happy animals or abused animals — dairy and eggs are always unhealthy. There is no way around it.

      Is it something I would ever do? That’s a definite “no“. I care too much about animals and being healthy and alive as long as I can for my loved ones (after all, it’s not just ourselves that are affected by our health, but our friends and family as well). I also have become disgusted by animal products because of what they are: eggs are chicken periods, milk is baby food. I have no interest in putting either in my body. In fact, the smell of eggs repulses me now (all animal products, for that matter) and because I have gone so long without dairy products, my body has reverted back to it’s natural state and will reject any dairy product I may ingest by mistake (it has happened and it’s not pretty). I am an adult human. I have absolutely no need for baby food designed by nature for a baby goat, cow, pig, sheep, tiger, beaver, dog, cat, or mouse. I have absolutely no need for chicken eggs, duck eggs, goose eggs, pigeon eggs, seagull eggs, or dinosaur eggs. Why should I want any of those things when there is plenty of perfectly good, tasty, healthy, and energizing vegan foods out there to explore?

      I would also like to note that there is no need to “toss” anyone out of anything. Your friend is helping animals because she is ovo-lacto. That is a fact and she should be very proud of herself. It is up to her to weigh the above information against her current feelings about her situation with her neighbor and come to a conclusion on what she feels is enough on her own.

  6. I gave up cheese (along with all other milk products and eggs) in 2010 for the animals. Little did I know that doing so would revolutionize my health. Imagine my surprise when I dropped 10 pounds off my tiny, under 5′ tall frame in the span of a year. Who knew? I started feeling better: I was less congested, more energetic, less prone to stomach aches, my skin cleared up, I even found my powers of concentration increased.

    There are so many benefits to being vegan, of course the main one is not contributing to the suffering and death of animals everywhere. However, I wish every meat, dairy, and egg addict could feel as physically and mentally clear as I do for just a single day. If they could, the whole world would be vegan in a heartbeat.

    1. YES! I went through this transformation as well. It’s amazing how we can live our lives for so many years eating and doing things to our body that are harming us, but we ignore the signs of harm because they have become so normal to us (acne, congestion, lethargy, stomach aches, weight gain, frequent colds). Instead we attribute those things to things less in our control like hormones, food allergy, weather, stress, or simply getting up on the wrong side of bed (because who really likes to put the blame on themselves, right?). When I went from being a meat eater to being a lacto-vegetarian I noticed somewhat of a change. But when I went from being a lacto-vegetarian to being vegan it was like I had been given a brand new body. It didn’t happen overnight and it wasn’t easy at first (I was very physically addicted to cheese — casein), but it was well worth it. Other people go on fasts and cleanses to try to detox their body — vegans don’t have to. Our diet is always cleansing our bodies and helping us run better. Kimberly, I totally agree that if people could wake up one day with a body that has even been vegan for only one month they would hardly be able to believe that they could feel and look this good — that it is even possible. I like to call it instant karma 🙂

  7. I have never liked cheese, even when I consumed dairy. I was the weirdo who always asked for pizza with out cheese XD. Funny thing is, anytime I order something as ask for certain ingredients to be left off, they always seem to forget to remove the cheese. I could order a salad with no lettuce and cheese; the lettuce will be left off, but the cheese will still make it on. And I don’t like any kind of cheese. Soy cheese is just foul. Shame because many vegan premade pizzas often contain soy cheeze. I have heard of nut cheeses that I am curious to try. Funny though because every time I go to a party or a get together, everyone seems to scramble to find a cheese replacement for me for the crackers. And I’m honestly fine because I can survive the party with out having something to put on a cracker XD. (Though hummus is always awesome if they happen to have it.)

  8. Love this article! But, Go Veggie cheese contains casein. Whenever I’ve bought it I thought I was making the right choice. Until I looked at the ingredients and sure enough casein was listed. I would like to know what other choices there are for NO casein in any vegan cheese.

    1. That’s right. Unfortunately there are quite a few products claiming to be vegan on their labels that actually aren’t vegan, because to them money is more important than honesty and integrity. This is why I always recommend to read labels, even if the packaging says “vegan” on it. The good news is once you get your regular products memorized you won’t have to bother with reading labels so much, but it’s still good to read the labels of your regulars periodically to make sure they haven’t started secretly slipping in animal ingredients. A good place to start looking for vegan products are:

      http://www.vegproductsguide.com

      http://veganproductguide.com

      And although this list seems daunting, I think it’s still important to include:

      http://www.peta.org/living/vegetarian-living/animal-ingredients-list.aspx

      I’d also like to add that I never endorsed Go Veggie as a vegan brand, because I know them not to be.

  9. Dear VR it’s so frustrating and almost impossible to read this on the current background. It’s definitely taking away from the message when you can’t easily read the words. Otherwise, thank you for this info.

  10. I really am trying to go vegan but I’m stuck so hard on cheese 😒. Thank you so much for this article. It was an eye opener and very helpful.

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